Re: Maybe we need a Rant Forum?
Personally, I don't think a new forum should be made, or even that the chit-chat section be used. To be honest, I don't think rant threads should be made in the first place. If there is an issue with any given tool, be it editor or trainer, then the user should post about their issue in the release thread. We already redirect members who create new threads asking about editors, and I think this is a lot cleaner and easier for everybody involved than to encourage more threads.
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Ryudo
Uh not really. Ranting about a subject is not spam. It purely depends on what the person is posting, and how many times he's posting, etc.
Personally I don't see a need for this, we have an Offtopic section for a reason. Make use of it.
Besides, if ranting is considered spam there, then it can be considered spam in the 'rant' section as well depending on what the post content is.
Complaining in and of itself isn't considered spam. It could be flaming or trolling maybe, depending on what we mean when we say "rant", but not spam. Creating a new thread to complain about something that already has its own thread, however, is considered spam. Even when somebody uses the chit-chat section, if they're asking about how to work a tool, we generally point them in the direction of the release thread for that tool and tell them to ask there or to PM the developer.
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Originally Posted by
TheDarknight
That way when a complaint starts instead of 30 replies that give attention to the negative statements we could say "Either PM or post in the complaints forum. This is not the place."
Truth be told, the release thread -IS- the place to discuss issues with an editor or trainer, and not a new forum or even the chit-chat forum. It helps the users know that there is an issue to be expected when downloading such and such editor, it helps the developer find and fix these issues without having to hunt down some random other thread, and it makes it more likely that questions will be answered in the first place. Conversely, having a thread dedicated to "ranting" puts the forums in a ripe situation for flame wars; I foresee users breaking countless forum rules, developers rage quitting, and staff getting overwhelmed trying to contain it all. To top it off, new threads just add to the clutter instead of taking away from it, so information will be more difficult to find and the site will become more expensive to run (which might even lead to stricter rules about staying active, and I KNOW nobody wants that).
All in all, I think it would be a great idea if we could count on all of our members (standard members, developers, and staff) to be completely civil about handling it. Unfortunately, about the only thing we can count on in such a scenario is the exact opposite: somebody is going to go too far, whether it's the end user who's just being a jerk, the developer who can't take criticism, or the staff member who deals disproportionate justice between the two. Somebody is going to take it too far.
Re: Maybe we need a Rant Forum?
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Originally Posted by
Ryudo
Uh not really. Ranting about a subject is not spam. It purely depends on what the person is posting, and how many times he's posting, etc.
Personally I don't see a need for this, we have an Offtopic section for a reason. Make use of it.
Besides, if ranting is considered spam there, then it can be considered spam in the 'rant' section as well depending on what the post content is.
Well that was exactly what I was saying :) Thanks for clearing it up if it wasn't.