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    Re: Save editing - encryped or doing something wrong?

    for spongebob change both values of your search.... and for disney try this..

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    Re: Save editing - encryped or doing something wrong?

    Trying to find my stats on tony hawk but no luck...I dont get it!! For example, in the save I sent you, for sarah, The grind stat shows 23256 experience which is 5AD8 in hex. I can't find 5AD8 at all! Same with the other stat experiences. Even tried D85A (reversing it). Tried searching in both HxD and Hexworkshop, same results. I've tried file compares, etc. The only value that is revealing itself is the Stokens (which is at 00005680 06, by the way). Any idea why this might be? Are these values hidden or split up in some other way?

    Also, the disney universe save you sent back to me is still showing corrupt. Was there supposed to be another hash fix app included?
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    Re: Save editing - encryped or doing something wrong?

    It seems you're having trouble understanding the differences between security types, so I'll explain as best I can. A developer can choose to include any number of different security methods.

    One such method is encryption, where the entire file is converted to a specific code that the game is designed to decipher; it's like if you share a special code language with your best friend that only you and your friend know, but if somebody else pays attention then they just might learn it too. That's generally how encryption works. The developers create their own special little language that the save file is converted to, and they build the cipher into the game itself so that the game can read the save but hackers can't, though a talented and intelligent hacker can sometimes figure the encryption out.

    Checksums and hashes are slightly different from each other, but they serve the same general purpose: they don't actually encrypt the save itself, but a check/hash is a little line of code that scans the save and runs it against an algorithm (mathematic equation). The game then reads the save data, reads the check/hash, compares the two with the algorithm, and decides if the save has been tampered with or not (returning a "corrupt save" if it has). They're easier to figure out than full-blown encryption, but there could be more than one check/hash within the data, so it also has the potential to be a little trickier.

    Then there's compression. Compression works similarly to encryption, but with one major difference in execution: instead of using a code to hide the data, it uses a code to shrink the data. It has the same end result: it creates a file that can easily be read by the game, but not by a hacker. Again, if a hacker is knowledgeable enough about this kind of stuff, they can find the compression method and decompress the save. (Side note, decompressors won't have any effect on encrypted saves, and vice versa for decryptors and compressed saves.)

    While these are the most used methods, that doesn't mean they're the only ones. Developers come up with weird and crazy things to throw us hackers off all the time. Fable 3 comes too mind (checksum, compression, multi partition, scary shit). So, based on your original post, you were able to find the values you were looking for, but when you edited them the save came up corrupt; the save isn't encrypted or compressed (otherwise you wouldn't have found your values) but it does have a hash or a check. Another post says that you looked for the values but couldn't find them; the save could be encrypted/compressed, but chances are just portions of the save are encrypted/compressed and not the whole thing (which, to my understanding, makes fixing it harder because one doesn't know what to look for).

    Personally, I can't help you. I don't know enough about checks/hashes or encryption/compression to fix anything for you. But I hope I helped explain things in a friendly and easy-to-understand way, so that better understanding can be had when asking about security. I hope you get your file modded.
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    Re: Save editing - encryped or doing something wrong?

    THANK YOU! So it sounds like the portion of Tony Hawk where I found the "Stokens" is NOT encrypted or compressed...possibly. Both the areas that hold the stats may be. With the stokens, I noticed the value doesn't sit at the same address all of the time. If my number of stokens changes, about two entire lines of code shift. Maybe I'll throw a stat mod request in the requests forum. This is clearly beyond my current skill set! I really appreciate you taking the time to break it down like you did. I used to hex edit PS games back in the day (among every other console). Remember Gran Turismo hybrids? lol

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    Re: Save editing - encryped or doing something wrong?

    Now you're getting it! When a value isn't associated with a specific address, it's called a dynamic value (as opposed to a static value, which IS tied to an address). That said, the bigger a title is, the more likely it is to have security (new or old doesn't matter, it's more about how big the name is, with multiplayer also playing a factor). Tony Hawk isn't as big a name as it used to be, it's actually kinda been on the back burner for the past decade. That doesn't mean it has for sure doesn't have security, but I'm sure that if it does have security then it's more than likely lower end.
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    Re: Save editing - encryped or doing something wrong?

    try this one for disney
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    Re: Save editing - encryped or doing something wrong?

    Buddah - save still comes up corrupt. Again, no rehash app included, was it supposed to be? Emerald Lance - hopefully, with this being an old title, someone will still be willing to take a look for these stat addresses. My goal is to be able to achieve stats not possible otherwise. Such as super jump (by editing the Air stat), perfect balance, etc.

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    Re: Save editing - encryped or doing something wrong?

    Just to make sure.... after using the tools that Buddah is providing you.....you are rehashing/resigning (particularly NOT using Modio) right?
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